In this episode, we’re talking with someone outside All Saints: Kevin Springer. In the 1980s, Kevin worked with John Wimber to write several books. Today, we’re talking about how God shaped Kevin’s life through what Kevin calls “Big Words”—the things God said in key transitions that opened up new direction about everything from college decisions to church planting and pastoring to writing and doing marriage seminars. Kevin and his wife of more than 50 years, Suzanne, live in California.